2013 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot - BBA

As members of the BBA, we're eligible to cast an unofficial Hall of Fame vote.  While our vote has no bearing on the actual Baseball Hall of Fame elections (which will be announced on January 9th at 2 PM ET), the BBA voting results have historically proven to be a pretty good inidcator of what the actual results might look like. 

As Hersh mentioned in this post, the 2013 Hall of Fame ballot is especially intriguing because it marks the first time that we'll see "no doubt about it" first ballot Hall of Famers* - take note of that asterisk.  Of course, the asterisk exists because of links to performance enhancing drugs and the steroid era.  By the numbers, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds and Mike Piazza are undoubtedly in the discussion of greatest of all-time at their respective positions but all three are strongly linked to the performance enhancing drugs and the steroid era.  This year also marks Jeff Bagwell's second time on the ballot... although speculation exists that Bagpipes took PED's because of his stature, there's nothing concrete out there to prove anything.  This year's voting results should give us a good indication of what the BBWAA is going to do moving forward.

For our ballots, we chose Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio and Fred McGriff

For me, personally, Biggio was an easy vote to cast.  Besides the 3,000 hits, Biggio exemplified sportsmanship and what it means to be a team player.  He played whatever position the team needed him to play, grinded out at bats and did everything in pursuit of greatness.  Had he played his entire career at second base, he probably would get more attention as he would be in the discussion of one of the greatest of all-time at that position.  As far as I'm concerned, his versatility, longevity and all-around play should solidify his status among the elite as a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

In addition to Biggio, we supported Bagwell's campaign as there is virtually no evidence or inkling to our knowledge that he used PED's (and our stance is clearly not to vote PED users in, at this point) and although we did not have 100% agreement on Fred McGriff (you can see our McGriff Hall of Fame Debate piece here), we felt that the concensus was strong enough among us to warrant a vote. 

Jack Morris just missed the cut for us but we wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he hears his name called on January 2nd.  Dale Murphy also just missed the cut despite some compelling arguments by his children and unfortunately we think his enshrinement will come by way of the Veteran's Committee (I gave him my support but my colleagues did not agree).  The problem with Murphy is that once you open the door for Dale Murphy, you have to really consider his candidacy against Don Mattingly and some of the other players that aren't in with similar prime numbers and we weren't ready to go there. 

HOF Ballot Eligible:

Jack Morris, Jeff Bagwell, Lee Smith, Tim Raines, Alan Trammell, Edgar Martinez, Fred McGriff, Larry Walker, Mark McGwire, Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy (last time on the ballot), Rafael Palmeiro, Bernie Williams,

First Ballot - Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Mike Piazza, Curt Schilling, Kenny Lofton, Craig Biggio, Sammy Sosa, David Wells, Steve Finley, Julio Franco, Reggie Sanders, Shawn Green, Jeff Cirillo, Woody Williams, Rondell WhiteRyan Klesko, Aaron Sele, Roberto Hernandez, Royce Clayton, Jeff Conine, Mike Stanton, Sandy Alomar, Jose Mesa, Todd Walker

10 comments:

  1. No on Murphy, in part per the Mattingly angle: http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2012/12/if-youre-going-to-elect-dale-murphy-to.html

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  2. Oh, and good effing doorknob no on Morris. Saberhagen or Cone should go before him. Hell, David Wells should go in before him: http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2011/01/some-post-hof-vote-final-thoughts-on.html

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  3. Thanks for visiting and commenting! You've gotta check out the Hall of Very Good which ran a post written by Dale Murphy's daughter... if we're supposed to pay attention to things like character, integrity and sportsmanship, Murphy has a very strong resume which includes starting a foundation to teach kids to play with integrity (called IwontCheat) and an induction into the Sporstman Humanitarians Hall of Fame. I was anti-Murphy but I changed my tune after reading it and reflecting on THIS year's class - if we're going to hold out Bonds and Co, that's one thing but the REAL bold statement would be to reward a character guy like Murphy.

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  4. http://www.hallofverygood.com/2012/12/madison-murphy-my-dad-is-super-hero.html

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  5. @OCP... thta's why Biggio will get a large vote. In addition to a solidly HOF career and counting stats, he has the definite Mr. Clean image.

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  6. Here's a good argument for Curt Shilling http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2012/12/pitcher-v-pitcher.html

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  7. I like Schilling but not first ballot. We debated his candidacy, too but we aren't joe Posnanski). Check out the link- thanks for visiting and commenting.

    http://baseballjunkies.blogspot.com/2011/06/hof-debate-curt-schilling.html?m=1

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  8. I don't know how you can lump Mike Piazza in with Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds. The same era, yes. But there have never been direct accusations about Mike. He's solely guilty by association with his time. As the best hitting catcher ever, he deserves entry this time around.

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  9. Thanks for visiting and commenting Andreole. Mike Piazza admitted to taking Andro and said he stopped because it didn't help (believe what you want, there's an admission of taking Androstenedione, classified as a steroid)... he also gained 20 pounds of muscle mass before the 1998 season and some of his peers have suggested that he probably took legitimate anabolic steroids. Where there's smoke, there's fire and there's enough smoke there for me to NOT put him on my ballot as a first ballot Hall of Famer.

    http://www.metstoday.com/6054/10-11-offseason/mike-piazza-and-the-steroid-issue/

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/features/1998/magpreview/breakingrecords.html

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  10. thanks for share.

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